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   09-16-2009, 11:23 AM
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Re: TT Course knowledge

 SILJA wrote:
I think that Bray Corner is the junction Bray Hill-Stoney Road. Look at the picture of the racing car at
http://riley.au.wmit.net/?pg=12
and the belonging text. That says that the car is pointing up the Stoney.
That could mean that the crossroad behind the car is Bray Hill with the curb stone in the middle of the
left edge of the picture. This is the left side of Bray Hill with the current racing direction.
To the left in the picture is the top of Bray Hill and further left the start line. Anyone who agrees???

Hi Silja

I agree with your interpretation of the pictures and maps at the website. So there was a 'Bray Corner' on the Mannin Beg Course, which had a downhill approach down Stoney Road, hard right and then up what we call Bray Hill.

But this cannot have been the same Bray Corner which I have seen described recently in an AJS marque history, which was, to repeat, a hard left hander (looks like a T junction or x-roads) and was dated 1914.

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   09-16-2009, 9:01 PM
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Re: TT Course knowledge
 Dougboy wrote:

 SILJA wrote:
I think that Bray Corner is the junction Bray Hill-Stoney Road. Look at the picture of the racing car at
http://riley.au.wmit.net/?pg=12
and the belonging text. That says that the car is pointing up the Stoney.
That could mean that the crossroad behind the car is Bray Hill with the curb stone in the middle of the
left edge of the picture. This is the left side of Bray Hill with the current racing direction.
To the left in the picture is the top of Bray Hill and further left the start line. Anyone who agrees???

Hi Silja

I agree with your interpretation of the pictures and maps at the website. So there was a 'Bray Corner' on the Mannin Beg Course, which had a downhill approach down Stoney Road, hard right and then up what we call Bray Hill.

But this cannot have been the same Bray Corner which I have seen described recently in an AJS marque history, which was, to repeat, a hard left hander (looks like a T junction or x-roads) and was dated 1914.

Regards

Doug


Hi Doug,

Well this is a tough task! I mean the AJS marque history. I was born 1942 so I'm too young to rember 1914. Of course my interpretation can be wrong about Bray Corner. But the picture at http://riley.au.wmit.net/?pg=12 isn't at all the same place as the one you refer to I guess. Is it possible to see your pic? Maybe that helps to solv the problem if someone else is familiar with that spot???


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Re: TT Course knowledge

Is there any word on this guide being included in next year's programme yet?

If not, how about printing them in pamphlet form and selling them on the ferry/newsagents etc with profits going to the air meds or something like that?

 


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Re: TT Course knowledge
Hmmm there's a chance that something happens with the list....
More to come later...

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Re: TT Course knowledge
My first TT was 1974 and at that time I feel sure that the left hander immediately before the QB was known as "Eyreton Corner". I believe the house at the end of Alexander Drive is or was called Eyreton House, the old vicarage. I see the bend listed as Alexander Drive (Woodlands) but I had never heard it called that before. Anyone else have any input? 
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   01-17-2010, 9:27 AM
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Re: TT Course knowledge
Hi all,
There is a message at another thread of this site, that it is now decided about publishing of the information at this "TT Course knowledge"-thread with the TT program 2010! This is a reminder if someone has missed it.
The signature Keppelgater, I know who he is and he can be trusted, writes:
"Ladies and gents, please be aware that the publishers of the Official TT Programme are suggesting this guide - it will be an addition to the Programme pack and not incorporated within the pages of the Programme. It was stated in my first post here that, it may not be possible due to space, to produce Silj's corner by corner guide but the intention would be to utilise, where possible as much as posssible. Additional info will be incorporated where needed and some of "sinister dexters" ideas have already been noted. I would not wish to indicate that the guide will be a reproduction of Silja's text word for word, or indeed, corner by corner, but Silja will be credited where required, as will the members of this forum."

Sigurd,

Maybe it is time to add your interesting information to the list. The reason why it is published as it is at this moment is that I had a look at the Taxi Map of Douglas. The light lefthander at Quarter Bridge Road where Alexander Drive connects in about 45° angel from the left is not named at all.
That's why I so far have named it Alexander Drive Junction (Woodlands). Woodlands Avenue, Close and Road are possible to reach by vehicle from Alexander Drive to the right in direction Quarter Bridge Road. There is a foot pathe from Quarter Bridge Road. Time to add Eyreton Corner? What is your opinion out there?



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Re: TT Course knowledge
How do you get to know all the names of corners when they're not generally on the course map, all you who know are you locals or racers? We have been visiting since 1992 but never heard of some of the places though I think we know most of the famous names on our way round. Also could anyone tell us how to get to Ramsey Hairpin? I have seen folks watching there though I know it may be a bit limited on space etc. Is it worth bothering with? We still manage to find a new place to watch each year even after all this time but the 'No watching here' signs are making it more difficult.
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Hi Bizzie Lizzie,

I'll tell you a secret. I'm living in Sweden, which means that I'm no local or a racer. But I've been at the island some times and I've worked a lot with some of the information at the list at this thread.

Do like this for example: Read books, look at maps, discuss at this thread and do like me...walk a lap and chat with people you meet.

Of course some names aren't famous but they are still existing. Strange that you don't know how to get to Ramsey Hairpin after 18 years!
With your own vehicle; Follow the course and stop when you get there.
Without your own vehicle: Take a bus or the train from Douglas to Ramsey. Walk uphill on the course for 15-20 minutes and you're there.
If a practice or race is going on you can get to the inside of the hairpin from several places in Ramsey.

Ramsey Hairpin is a good spot to see the riders closely but it's very slow. There are many more exciting spots around the course.

Next time you go, print out the map and list of names at this thread and bring it. That's an excellent way to get some more knowledge about the TT-course.

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Re: TT Course knowledge
Hi Silja thanks for your answer. I think you misunderstood a bit of my thread. I do know how to get to Ramsey Hairpin by road and where it is on the course or I would of been riding round with my eyes shut, sometimes not a bad idea, ha ha! I wondered how to get to the inside of the bend to watch a race as there is no parking there I believe. If I park in ramsey someone said there is a footpath to it, but where does the path start from? Also, well done for walking the course if you do it in one go you must be fit!
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Re: TT Course knowledge
Hi again.
I´m 68 this year and I made it last spring in three pieces.
If you park in central Ramsey you walk uphill May Hill. Take to the left at Lheaney Road to the right at Crescent Road and right again at Crescent West till its end and you are there!
If the roads are closed: Take A2 from Douglas through Laxey. When you approach Ramsey there is a path called Claughbane Walk to the left just before the railroad crossing. That walk leads straight to Ramsey Hairpin. 

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'Apologies if this link has been mentioned before, but this is an interesting site for route planning for more adventurous spectators.
http://www.gov.im/manngis/streetmap/StreetMap.iom
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Hi Silja awesome effort mate you must be divorced by now what with the time you,ve put into this. I feel alittle sly now but Kerrowmoar 3 is also known as Abbeyville ( marshalled there for years with me mum and dad ) remember Joey getting the biggest tank slapper ive ever seen that someone held onto he was in the gutter on the right then straight across the road and it was only the luck he received from above that saved him coz when he hit the curb it just knocked everything straight and he continued back to the pits straight past geoff cannell and off out to the van . Never forget it , fastest and also the smoothest rider ever through there was the late great Mark Farmer he was so much faster than anyone i couldn,t ever understand why he,d not won one glad i know aliitle more now . Again Silja great subject.
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Hello Aggie,
Thank you for the information. I'll add it soon!

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Re: TT Course knowledge
PLEASE NOTE! There are some changes since the earlier published lists.
From now and on updates will be in red bold text and remain red until the next update created by me with a new document in this thread.

Sources:
Andrew Reid's Virtual Isle of Man.
Bob Holliday's book Racing Around the Island.

Isle Of Man TT Official Site.
Members of this forum.
Peter Corlett about plaques.
Ray Knight's  book TT Riders Guide.
TT Course Incident Management Green Book 2007.
Yn Cheshaght Ghailckagh. (The Manx Society.)


Andrew Reid's Virtual Isle of Man. 360° Panoramic Views.
http://www.virtualiom.com/tt

Please click the links for panoramas. Requires either java enabled in your browser or the quicktime plugin installed. Drag the mouse with the mouse button pressed - rotate the panorama to look up, down, left or right. For more information or help about the panoramas, please visit:
http://www.virtualiom.com

The red figures shows TT Course place names with their approximate milage from the start. Mile marks here are measured from the start line which means that they are not always at the same spot as the milestones are in reality! Some milestones along the course are, for example, measured from the old capital Castletown and their placings has nothing with the TT Course to do.

HERE IS THE LIST OF NAMES FROM START TO FINISH!

Start And Finish Line (Grandstand) 0/37.73 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/47/100/1
(Grandstand on the left in Douglas, Manx: Doolish which means Black Water. Another explanation of the name Douglas is that the first part comes from the River Dhoo and the second part from River Glass, hence Douglas. Douglas is as well called Dubh Lios, which means Black Lios. Not shure which is correct. The Stanley Woods Memorial Clock is on the scoreboard. There is a plaque to the right of the clock as a commemoration for the 10 times winner of TT-races between  1922 and 1939. On the wall to the right of the course, at the starting line, in the corner of Greenfield Road are two commemoration plaques. On for Joey Dunlop and one for Mike Hailwood.)
Glencrutchery Road (Glen means narrow valley. Glencrutchery is said to mean the ”The Road of Harper's Glen”, but this is doubtful according to some sources.)
Noble's Park (The park, on the left, was given to Douglas Corporation by the trustees of the estate of Henry Bloom Noble in April 1909.)
St. Andrew's Church on the left.

St Ninian's 0.4 (Slight left hander. St Ninian brought Christianity to the island in the 5th century. On the left.)
Bray Hill 0.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/40/100/1
(Slight right hander at the bottom and there is a cross road. Thorny Road to the left and Tromode Road to the right.
In times gone by, was known as "Siberia".)

Ago's Leap (Giacomo Agostini, 15 times world champion, 10 times TT winner.)
Selborne Drive Junction 0.9
1st course mile mark. (On the right. These marks, mentioned in this list as course mile marks, are measured from the starting line and they are signs with black digits on a white bottom. According to logs from on board computers at Ian Lougher's bikes from 2006, a 600 cc has full throttle at 75 % of a lap. On a 1000 cc it's only 15 %.)
Alexander Drive Junction (Woodlands) (Slight left hander. As well mentioned as Eyreton Corner as there is definitely a house called Eyreton on Quarterbridge Road. The Bishops House, Eyreton, is situated on the Quarter Bridge side of the junction.)
Quarter Bridge 1.3 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/85/100/1
(Right hander. Also known as ”Bridge of the Quarterlands.” Here is a pub on the left, Quarter Bridge Arms. The boundary between the quarterlands of Ballabrooie or River Bridge Farm and Ballaquayle, in the Treen of Douglas. This bridge spans the River Glass, which is here the boundary between the parishes of Kirk Braddan and Kirk Conchan.)
Port-e-Chee meadow wall (Camping and football field. Home of the Douglas Football Union.)
Jubilee Oak
(In the middle of the roundabout just before Braddan Bridge. Planted 1887 to mark the Golden Jubilee (50 year reign) of Queen Victoria.)
Braddan Bridge 1.8 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/78/100/1
(S-bend left-right. There were ten Irish saints named Brenainn. The form Braddan into which Brenainn developed in Mann, took place at an early date.)
2nd course mile mark.
On the right.
(Kirby Garden Center.)
Snugborough 2.5 (Sweeping left. English: "snug borough," where the latter element is used to denote a farm.)
Union Mills http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/86/100/1
(Slight right-left hander.)
Railway Inn
2.6 (Hard right hander. Here is a pub on the left close to the junction Lhergy Cripperty Cronk Road to the left.)     
Strang Road 2.7 (Post office on the right used to be the home of the pop group the Bee Gees. Now a SPAR shop.)
Union Mills Garage on the left.
Union Mills Church
on the right.
Trollaby Lane (Lhoan Trollaby on the right. Scandinavian: Trolla-byr, which may mean "the farm of the trolls" or
"Trolli's farm". Personal name.)

3rd course mile mark. On the right.
Ballahutchin 3 (Top of called Ballafreer.) 3.4 (Ballahutchin House to the left. "Freer's homestead", name from the house there on the right. Balla means place, farm or home of. Ballahutchin means "Hutchin's farm".)
Elm Bank to the right.
Glen Lough Campsite 3.5 (On the left. Manx: Glion logh, "lake glen".)
Glen Vine
Ballagarey 3.8 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/76/100/1
(Right hander. Garey means garden or shrubbery. Manx: Ballalhergy Balley ny liargee, "farm of the slope." Could mean in Manx, Bailey garee, ”river thicket farm” as well. Often named “Ballascary”.)
4th course mile mark. On the left.
Glen Darragh Road
4.1 (To the left at the traffic lights.)
Marown Church (St Runius Church on the left.)
Twisted Chimneys
(On the left. A house with two chimnies built as corkscrews.)
Crosby
http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/80/100/1
(Manx: Balley Ny Croshey. Slight left hander first that leads in to Crosby. David Jefferies crashed here in practice and was killed 2003.)
Crosby Church Hall (On the right.)  
Crosby Cross Roads 4.7
Crosby Hotel and Pub
4.8 (On the right.)
5th course mile mark.
On the left.
Wagon and Horses
5.2 (On the left. Half Way House. Private villa now. Used to be a pub.)
The Highlander 5.5 (On the right. Now a restaurant. Used to be a pub.)
Greeba Veranda
(Fern Bank. On the right. Left hander. It is a viewing spot, open to the public, but with restricted numbers.  Possibly parking, toilets and refreshments are available too.)
Pear Tree Cottage 5.9 (On the right. Left hander.)
Greeba Castle
5.9 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/83/100/1
(Right hander.)
6th course mile mark.
On the right.
Appledene
6.3 (Slight left-right.)
Cronk Dhoo (Doo) Farm
(Camp site on the right. Cronk means hill and Cronk Doo "black hill".)
Greeba Bridge 6.7 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/82/100/1
(After, on the left is a church built 1881 named The Old Chapel.)
The Hawthorn
6.9 (A pub on the left.)
Cronkbreck Farm
(On the right. Means "speckled hill farm". As you approach from the Hawthorn, Cronkbreck House is on your left and Cronkbreck Farm is on your right. Then there is the minor road/lane off to the left (to Kennaa and The Hope). Past this, but "gabling" on to it on the left, is Knockbreck/Harold Leece's. As above, the place names appear split or joined, depending on which source that you use. Proposed to be renamed Harold's or Harold Leece's as a tribute to one of the most hospitable landowners on the whole of the course.)
7th course mile mark.
On the left.
Gorse Lea Corner
7 (Right hander. Gorse Lea is the name of a building on the right.)
Ballagarraghyn
7.5 Bridge and Farm on the right. (”Dorgan or O'Dorgan's farm” (Irish: O'Dorcháin), lost surname.
The metamorphosis of Dorgan or Doraughan into Garraghyn. Used to be a hump-backed bridge.)
Ballacraine 7.7 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/75/100/1
(Right hander. ”Craine's farm.” Used to be a pub on the left.
That was the pub that George Formby crashed into in the movie ”No Limit”.)
Ballaspur 7.9 (Left-right hander. Milky’s, Richard Quayle's, crash. Means “Pointed Rock Farm”.)
8th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.

Ballig (Means "farm of the hollow". Ballig Plantation on the right.)
Ballig Bridge
8.2 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/77/100/1
(Over the river Neb. Here was a jump quite equal with Ballaugh Bridge in the early days.
The bridge was widened, straightened and flattened in 1936. Left hander after the bridge.)

Doran's Bend
8.3 (Hard left hander. Bill Doran twice second in TT races in the 1940s and 50s. He spilled here and broke a leg at practice 1950. On the wall to the right by the river, at the gate to Beary Farm, there is a plaque dedicated to Phil Mellor who died here in the TT 1989.)
Hope Corner
Rocky Face
(Right hander.)
Laurel Bank 1
8.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/84/100/1
(Right and a hard left hander. Name comes from the laurel bushes that used to grow here. Could be the bend that was called Horn's Corner for a while in the 50's. Chris Horn was taking part in the Senior TT on Friday June 8th 1951, riding a Norton, when he lost control and was killed instantly.)
Laurel Bank Cottage on the left.
Laurel Bank 2 (Hard right hander.)
Glen Mooar Mills
8.9 (Left hander. Mill on the right.)
Glen Mooar Garage (Means "great glen garage". Now closed.)
9th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009. (Right-left hander.)
Black Dub 9.1 (Glen Mooar) (Left-right. Refers to the bog. If you look over the bank to the left of the start of the right hander you will see the small bog or "dub" and it is black. Moar means large or big and Dub refers to the bog.)
The Vaaish Moar 9.2 (Right hander. The Vaaish is on the left. It is a small but prominent plantation of 17 hectares on a very steep bank overlooking Glen Helen. It was first planted in 1935 and then again in 1965 with 2.8 hectares being restocked in 1988. The main species in this plantation are Japanese Larch, Scots Pine, Lodgepole Pine and Corsican Pine.)
Glen Helen 1 9.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/81/100/1
(Section starts with two lefts, and then a right. Name comes from the daughter in a family that used to live here in the nineteenth century.)
Quarter Way Post 9.4
Glen Helen 2
Glen Helen Pub and Hotel
(On the right. There is a left hander after the pub.)
Sarah's Cottage
9.8 (On the left. Right hander. The  lady who lived there was known as Sarah Corlett. In a rainy Senior TT 1965 both Mike Hailwood and Giacomo  Agostini slid off here on their MV fours. Mike managed to finish as a winner but Ago had to retire.)
Creg Willey's Hill 9.9 (Manx: Creg Willeys Syl, Rock of Willey Sylvester. Creg means rock.)
10th course mile mark. On the left.
Lambfell Moar
10.1(Double S-bends. Scandinavian: Lamb: lamm, fell: fjall. Lamb's Mountain.)
Cronk-y-Voddy Straight
http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/90/100/1
Cronk-y-voddee. ”Hill of the dog.” Right hander at the top of Cronk-y-Voddy is called the Cronk-y-Voddy flag. This leads to a jump opposite a marshalling point at a house called Burnside. Next point is the stockade, long hedge with lots of spectators on... good place to watch by the way.)
Cronk-y-Voddy (Sartfell) Crossroads
10.6 (Scandinavian for Sartfell: Svartfjall, "Black mountain". Little London is sometimes mentioned here as well. On the right is The Old Church.)

11th course mile mark (flag). (On the left. Sweeping right hander.)
11th milestone
(
Left hander with the caravan / hut in the field.)
Drinkwater's Bend
11.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/91/100/1
(Sweeping left hander. Ben Drinkwater crashed here and was killed in the Junior TT June 13th 1949.)
Handley's 11.8 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/92/100/1
(Left-hard right hander. Walter Handley, 4 times TT winner in the 1920s and 30s. Dead in World War 1942 in a flight accident. Bend named after he came unstuck here 1932 when trying to catch the two works Nortons ahead of him in the Senior. Handley's Cottage is known as Ballameanagh: Middle Farm on the right.)
12th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009. (Left hander 50 yards past Handleys.)
Shughlaige Farm
Shughlaige Bridge.
(Probably a locative form of Manx shelg (Irish sealg) "hunting, or the chase", and indicating the place where the huntsmen met. Followed of a right-left section leading to the jump at Ballaskyr Farm on the left.
Ballaskyr Bridge
12.2 (Sweeping left hander. Ballaskyr means "homestead of the craftsmen".)
Top of Barregarrow (Crossroads) 12.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/88/100/1
(Slight right hander. Manx: Bayr garroo, ”rough road”. Comes from Baaregaroo.)
13th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Barregarrow Hill (Left hander at chapel.)
Bottom of Barregarrow
13.1 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/89/100/1
(Hard left hander. The on board computer measures 13.1 miles to this spot from the start.)
Cammall Farm (
On the right. Scandinavian: Kambafjall, ridge fell or hill.)
13th milestone (First right then a long left hander.)
Cronk Urleigh
13.5 (The double right hander first in the section downhill past Cronk Urleigh farm.
Means probably "the hill or ridge of slaughter". Other sources says ”Eagle Hill”.)
Westwood Cottage 13.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/95/100/1
(Cottage on the right. The left hander that is the second bend in the section.
Spanish rider Santiago Herrero was killed in a crash here 1970.)
Brake Leg (Just before the dip leading on to the straight for Douglas Road Corner.)
14th course mile mark
sign is missing in April 2009.
Kirk Michael 14.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/93/100/1
(Manx: Balley Keeill Vaayl. Kirk comes from Scandinavian kyrka: church.)
Douglas Road Corner 14.3 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/31/100/1
(Right hander, off camber. Called Kirk Michael Corner as well. At the old St. John’s circuit this was a hairpin left and then the coast road to Peel. Here is a plaque for 100 years of use of this part of the course in 2007. This corner was on the very first course 1907 as well.)
Mitre Hotel and Pub 14.4 (On the right.)
Whitehouse Park on the right.
Cooper's Close
(Name of road or alley on the left that probably isn´t connected to racing. Maybe there was a making of barrels in the early days. Another proposal, that doesn´t seem likely, is related to John Cooper who raced in the 60s and 70s.)
15th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
The Old Vicarage Museum or Penny Bridge Stables
(Now museum for Classic Bike Collection. On the left.)
Orrisdale South 15.2 (On the left. Orrisdale in Manx Gaelic probably Eyrarstalir, ”gravelly, or sandy, bank farm.”)
Birkin's Bends 15.3 (Right hander. Archie Birkin crashed and was killed here 1927.)
Rhencullen 15.4 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/94/100/1
(Right-left hander. Rhencullin means ”holly ridge”.)
Cloudy Lane (A secluded spectating spot on entry to a very fast right hand swoop.
No charge, no facilities, no parking. Access on foot only, from the outside of the circuit, down the signed short public footpath leading off the old railway line footpath between Kirk Michael and Ballaugh.)

Lyndhurst Junction to the right.
Bishopscourt 15.7 (The residence of the Bishop. On the left.)
16th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Orrisdale North 16 (On the left.)
Dub Cottage
(On the left. Slight left-right-left.)
Alpine House
16.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/87/100/1
(On the left. Slight left-right hander.)
Ballacobb
16.8 (Slight left-right. Same spot as Brough Jairg Bends. Means The See Through Bends.)
Picasso (Same spot as the last right at Ballacobb.
New name on the sweeping right hander before Ballaugh after the police painting of the road surface 2008.)
17th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
(Tom Clucas was killed here in the 600cc MGP 2004 when leading the race.)
Ballaugh Bridge
17.2 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/25/100/1
(Slight left-right-left. Here is Raven, a pub on the right. Manx: Balley ny loghey, "homestead of the lake". As well Balla Lough: "Lake Farm Bridge". Opposite The Raven there is a commemoration of pre-war, BMW  rider Karl Gall who crashed here 1939. There is a small plaque on a gatepost. It is a famous jump over the bridge. To the right just after the bridge there is a connection to Brandywell via Druidale on a narrow road. You are stuck to the inside of the course but it gives an opportunity to see the races from different spots the same practice or race day.)
Gwen's, Coan Bulgh
17.5 (On the right after a right hander. Gwen Crellin, "The Lady in White" used to live here. The nick name given by Giacomo Agostini. She was marshalling for about 40 years and died at age 89 in December 2006. There is a plaque, on the left side of the road opposite the house, for Gwen Crellin. On the same place is a plaque for Gary Dickinson who raced 125cc 1958-1971. He died 1993 and his friends put the plaque and his ashes here.)
Ballacrye Bend (Slight left. McCray or Cry's farm.)
Ballacrye Jump 17.9 (If you like to stay in a hawthorn hedge for several hours you can get really great pictures of flying motor-bikes here!)
18th course mile mark
sign is missing in April 2009.
Wildlife Park
(On the left. Right hander.)
Gob-y–Volley (Gob-y-Volley is opposite the Wildlife Park. A piece of land. It consists of 31 hectares with fertile lower slopes and a productive north facing woodland. The name Gob-y-Volley comes from the Gaelic for “point/bluff of the pass”. Very appropriate as it forms the western entrance to Sulby Glen. Some sources says it means something similar to ”the right and left sweep”.)
Quarry Bends 18.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/55/100/1
(Left-right-left.)
Ballavolley Bends (Right hander. End of Quarry Bends. On the hill on right above is IoM forestry board, now DAFF, Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry.)
Half Way Post 18.9
Sulby (One source says: The highest known speed at the course, so far, is measured with an on board computer. At practice 2006, Bruce Anstey reached over 206 m.p.h. at the Sulby Straight on a TAS Suzuki 1000 cc GSXR. Other sources say: The 206 m.p.h figure came from the data logging of Bruce's bike but the figure is not 100% accurate. Reason why should be that the data-logging equipment took a false reading over the bumps. The speed trap in the road at Sulby is about 99% accurate however, and the fastest rider through that to date is Ian Hutchinson at 196 m.p.h. in 2007. There is a bit more road left after the speed trap before the riders slow for Sulby Bridge so the 200 m.p.h. figure is probably not too far away.)
19th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Sulby Crossroads
19.3 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/58/100/1
(Sulby Glen. Here is a pub at Sulby hotel on the left. The name of the village of Sulby or Sõlabyr "Soli's estate" reflects the Scandinavian influence in Isle of Man place-names.)
Sulby Straight (Not a bend but often mentioned. Top speeds here are about 320 km/h or nearly 200 m.p.h. measured with on board computers. An ex-racer says that when you're travelling at nearly 200 m.p.h. along the straight, the slight right kink in the road just over halfway along is DEFINITELY A BEND!!)
Sulby Bridge 20.1 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/57/100/1
(Right hander.)
20th course mile mark. On the right.
Ginger Hall Hotel 20.3 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/43/100/1
(Left hander. Here is a pub and hotel on the right.)
Kerrowmoar 1 20.6 (Left-right-hard left section. Ancient Kerroo Moore: Great Quarterland.)
Kerrowmoar 2
Kerrowmoar 3 (As well known as Abbeyville.)

(After Kerrowmoar as you get to Glen Duff, there's a road on the left by the old bridge. This road is called Bayr-ny-Hayrey (The Road of the Ayre.) The best pronunciation from a local is "Ben-a-Hairaa".)
21st course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Glen Duff, Bernaharra Road 21.2 (Slight left-right. Manx: Glion doo, Irish: Gleann dubh) "black or dark glen". There's a road on the left by the old bridge. This road is called Bayr-ny-Hayrey (The Road of the Ayre.) The best pronunciation from a local is "Ben-a-Hairaa".)
Department of Transport Yard (On the right. Commonly known as Glen Duff Depot. On the left here is Café Rosa.)
Glen Tramman 21.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/44/100/1
(The Water Through or Irish: Gleann na d-troman,"the glen of the elder or trammon trees". First two lefts then a right hander followed by a hard left. Glen Tramman House on the left.)
Churchtown 21.8 (Fast right hander. Church hall on the right. Lezayre is a parish that spans a quite large area and it starts here. It spans not only the TT course. Good viewing, probably between a quarter and a half of a mile of road in sight. Real toilets available opposite church entrance and in church hall. Refreshments in field. Small charge to get in, goes to TT related charity. You more or less get to see the areas between Lezayre Churce and Pinfold (Milntown) Cottage. Turn off circuit up loop road by War Memorial. Course bound once roads closed.)
22nd course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Lezayre Church 22.2 (Left hander. Lezayre War Memorial and Church on the right and Ballakillingan Farm opposite the road. Manx for Ballakillingan: Balley keeill Ingan, farm of (St.) Fingan's church on the right.)
Conker Fields (Conkerfields extends between the war memorial at Churchtown through to the Caravan. The K is part of the Conkerfields section, as is the Caravan.)
The K
(Left kink. The K is painted on a tree on the left, probably to warn riders för a prominent kerbstone.)
The Caravan (The caravan was there for years and has now been replaced by a wooden shed. Missing in April 2009.)
The Bottom Of Sky Hill
Pinfold (Milntown) Cottage
22.8 (Cottage on the left. Right-left hander.)
Glen Auldyn Bridge 23 (Milntown Bridge. Milntown is "farm of the mill". Scandinavian for Auldyn or Aldyn : Alptardalr, "swan's glen".)
Ramsey (Manx: Rhumsaa.)
23rd (This is a virtual milestone measured with on board computer.)
Gardener's Lane Junction 23.2 (Milntown is an area on the inside of the course opposite Gardener's Lane. Lezayre Road starts here and ends in centre Ramsey.)
23rd course mile mark (On the left. Which means that the course mile mark is on a spot that isn't exactly 23 miles from the start.)
Scoolhouse/Crossag's Lane 23.4 (Left hander.)
Parliament Square 23.8 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/54/100/1
(Right hander. Here are The Swan on the right  and The Central on the left , two pubs. Lowest point of the course. At sea level.)
Raymotors
(On the both right and left side of the road. At the left kink leading to Albert Road there is a piece of the kerb taken away now that makes the course about 2-3 yards shorter!!!)
Albert Road
Albert Terrace
Queen's Pier Road

Bus Station (On the right. Just before Cruickshank's down the road is called The Corry after the Coronation Park on the right.)
24th
(This is a virtual milestone measured with on board computer.)
Cruickshank's 24 (Right hander. House on the left was called Cronk Brae earlier. Deemster Cruickshank lived there. It is now called May Hill House or Parretts House. There is a name plaque on the gateway to that effect. He owned the surrounding land and permitted the races to cross his land by opening the gated road. Deemster Cruickshank died sometime during world war one years. A Mr. Teare  who was a Ramsey MHK bought the property. When the races resumed after the war, Mr. Teare requested a payment from the organisers for the use of his land which was rejected. So for a couple of years there was a detour after Parliament Square, the course turned left into Albert Road and then right into Tower Road rejoining the present course, via Parsonage Road, at the foot of May Hill. Right on the point of the wall of Cronk Brae just before the bricked up gate way is the sign on wall MAY HILL, you wont see it as the bales cover it while racing is on.)
May Hill 24.1 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/52/100/1
(Slight right hander. May Hill extends over the brow of the hill and all the way along the straight. 80 yards up is The Phone Box on the right at the end of Glen Elfin Road where Gene McDonnell's bike ended up stuck in when he fell of at Cruickshank's 1986. Half way up May Hill is what is called Miss Carr's after the lady who lived there.)
White Gates 24.2 (Left hander. Named after two white gates that were at the end of Claughbane Road straight ahead. The gate posts are still there. The 24th Milestone was actually located on White Gates Corner, but has been conspicuous by it's absence in recent years.)
24th
course mile mark (This is the course mile mark. 10 feet up in the air on the right by the entrance to Barrule Park, 20 yards after White Gates. That means that the course mile mark is on a spot that isn't exactly 24 miles from the start.)
Stella Maris
24.3 (Right hander. Private Villa on the left.)
Ramsey Hairpin 24.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/56/100/1
(Hard left hander.)
Waterworks 1
24.8 (Right hander.)
Waterworks 2
24.9 (Right hander.)
Tower Bends
25 (Tar Bend or Bends? Tower Farm Bend or Bends?
Named after the Albert Tower (or Memorial) on the right which stands above them. Below the tower is a left hander followed of a slight left hander. Built to  commemorate the visit to Ramsey of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert, September the 20th 1847. Albert Tower is about half a mile along the track (on the inside of the course) from Tower Bends. It is not really on the course. Tower bends after the Albert Tower is a right-left.)
25th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Gooseneck 25.4 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/45/100/1
(Sharp right hander.)
Centenary Bends
(Proposal for two “nameless” fast left corners between Gooseneck and Joey's.
Another proposal for the same bends is Ian Lougher's.)
26th Joey's http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/50/100/1
(26th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009. Right hander. Joey Dunlop, 26 times TT winner between 1977-2000, 3 hat-tricks 85, 88 and 2000. Killed in race accident in Estonia 2nd July 2000. Joey's is placed here at the 26th because he had 26 victories at the TT.)
Guthrie's Memorial 26.7 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/48/100/1
(Left-right. Also named The Cutting. James Guthrie, 6 times TT winner in the 1930s. Killed in German GP, August 1937. The memorial on the right is built at the point where he retired in his last TT-race. There are three lefts leading into Guthrie's that can be taken as a long left, all in one radius. There is a left after the monument.)
27th Mountain Mile (Starts with a right hand kink. Often mentioned.)
27th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
28th mile mark sign is missing in April 2009. Slight right hand kink.)
Three Quarter Way Post
28.3 is missing in April 2009.
Mountain Box 28.7 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/53/100/1
(Double apex left hander. East Mountain Gate or Box or East Snaefell Gate. Probably it was named so because in the early years of the TT Course, when it was just a dirt road, there was a gate to keep in the sheep grazing on the mountain. The first rider through had to open the East Mountain Gate and the last one had to close it.)
29th course mile mark. (On the right. There is a slight left hander before.)
George's Folly
(Rice's Corner) 29.2 (Right hander. Alex George crashed here in Senior TT 1977.)
Mike Casey Shelter (200 yards after George's Folly on the left is a shelter erected in memory of Michael Casey, winner of the 1995 Senior MGP, who lost his life in Ballagarey Corner June 4th 1998.)
Black Hut or Stonebreaker's Hut 29.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/38/100/1
(Left hander. The shelter on the right is also named The John Smythe Shelter. He crashed and was killed in the Senior MGP 1989.)
Verandah 29.7 (At entrance.) 29.9 (At exit.) (Right handers. Four Bends. Can be taken with the radius as one bend.)
30th course mile mark
sign is missing in April 2009.
Bob McIntyre Memorial Box (3 TT wins and one MGP in the 1950s. 8 times GP winner. First man who made a 100 m.p.h. lap 1957. Dead after crash at Oulton Park 1962. It's said that Geoff Duke was the first man to make the ton in 1955 on a Gilera 500/4. The timekeepers changed their minds after a while and adjusted the speed of the lap to 99.97 m.p.h. Reason why is still unclear. The Bob McIntyre memorial shelter is no longer there but it used to be on the left of the course.)
Bungalow Bridge or Les Graham Memorial 30.4 (Slight right before the shelter on the right, then a left hander. Les Graham was killed in senior TT 1953 at Bray Hill. At Graham Memorial is also a memory sign, called Swallow's Sweep, for Richard Swallow 1952-1992. 5 times Junior Classic MGP winner.)
Bungalow Corner 30.9 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/41/100/1
(Left-right hander. On the approach to Bungalow there are three sweeping rights that can be taken as one.
100 yards up the hill on the right towards the ex-museum, there is a statue of Joey Dunlop sitting on a racingbike.)
Snaefell Mountain Railway crossing
Tholt-y-Will Junction
(To the right. Road leads to Sulby. Manx: Tolta vn woaillee, "hill of the cattle-fold".)
31st course mile mark. On the right.
Hailwood Rise
31.1 (Mike Hailwood, World Champion 9 times, 14 times TT winner 1961-1979. Killed in a car accident in March 1981 in Warwickshire, England.)
Hailwood Height 31.5 (There is a sign on the left.)
Brandywell
31.6 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/39/100/1
(Hard left hander. Manx: Chibbyr y phunch. Highest point of the course, 1385 feet above the sea level. Shelter is on the right. This is the other end of the narrow road through Druidale to Ballaugh Bridge.)
32nd Duke's
32nd course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009. (Two left handers. Geoff Duke, 6 times world champion in the 1950s. 6 times TT winner.)
Windy Corner 32.4 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/59/100/1
(Right hander. The shelter is on the left. Named because no matter what the weather is, there is always a wind blowing.)
33rd http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/37/100/1
33rd course mile mark. (On the right. Slight right-left before and a slight right after the mile mark.)
33rd milestone
(Double apex left hander with a gentle right before. There is a small shelter on the right in the start of the section and a bigger shelter on the left at the second left hander.)
Keppel Gate 33.7 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/51/100/1
(Slight right and a hard left hander. Shelter on the right. Hero's Gate in times gone by. As well known as Clark's Corner. R O Clark dropped his 250 Levis on the last lap of the 1920 Junior TT, when running 1st lightweight and probably 4th overall. He picked it up and finished. Very most likely originally a gate outside Tait's Cottage and, in a similar fashion to the procedure at East Mountain Gate, the first rider had to open the gate and the last one had to shut it. If you go back a quarter of a mile from Kate's Cottage to what is now known as Keppel Gate, there's a stone, Marshal's shelter, and at the side of this is an old stone gatepost which is said to have originated at the site of the old Keppel Gate.)
Kate's Cottage 33.9 (Hard left hander with a slight left before. Tait's Cottage. Named after the Tait family, Rhodes and his wife Gladys, a family of Manx sheep farmers who had lived in that cottage for generations. It was slip of the tongue by Graham Walker (Murray's Dad) during a pre-war BBC commentary. He called it Kate's Cottage. The name has stuck ever since but some sources say that there has been a Kate as well for a period.)
34th course mile mark. On the right.
Creg-ny-Baa 34.5 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/42/100/1
(Right hander. Keppel Hotel, a pub on the left. Creg-ny-Baa means ”rock of the cow".)
35th course mile mark sign is missing in April 2009.
Gob-ny-Geay Farm 35 (On the right. "The point of the mouth or beak of the wind". Also called Sunny Orchard.
There's a little track at the side of the farm. It's a boundary line of the sectors used by Marshals and is called Lanjaghan Lane.)
Brandish Corner or O'Donnell's Corner 35.4 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/79/100/1
(Fast left hander. Shelter on the right. Named after Walter Brandish who broke a leg here in 1923 which ended his racing career. O’Donnell refers to some owner of land here before 1914. Someone said once that if you ride from Hillberry to Brandish Corner (in the direction followed by the Clypse Course) you are travelling along Telegraph Hill.)
Hillberry 36 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/49/100/1
(Fast right hander. There is a grandstand on the left close to the track. Manx: Cronk y Berry. Berry is a legendary Manx witch.)
36th course mile mark.
On the left.
Glen Dhoo Campsite
36.1 (On the right.)
Johnny Watterson's Lane Junction (The shelter is on the right.)
Cronk-ny-Mona
36.4 (Slight left. Means "hill of the turbary or turf". All ears are tuned into the commentary for the magic words "the lights on now - he's through". Moved from Signpost to save time because of the high speeds nowadays.)
Signpost Corner 36.6 (Right hander.)
Bedstead Corner 36.8 (Left hander. The farmer used and old head board from a bed for a gate into the field. The gate (presumably due to neglect or damage) had been substituted by various bits of defunct furniture and junk, most prominently an old cast iron bedstead - hence the name. Here starts Hailwood Avenue.)
37th course mile mark.
On the right.
The Nook
37 (Right hander. The name comes from the house opposite. It is the home of the Governor on the left. Here is a new piece of road built. It continues straight to the Onchan roundabout. The course turns a little right and that leads to the hairpin at Governor's Bridge.)
Governor's Bridge
37.2 http://www.gyrovision.com/panoid/46/100/1
(Sharp right hander followed of a left-right on to Glencrutchery Road.)
Victoria Road Junction
Glencrutchery Road
37.3
Start And Finish Line
0/37.73
(The current official length of The TT Course is 37,73 miles
with approximately 221 bends.)

Current lap record John McGuinness at Pokerstars Senior TT, June the 12th 2009.
Time: 17.12.30. Average speed: 131.578 m.p.h. on a 1000cc HM Plant Honda.


Proposal of names for the two commentary points at Glen Helen and Ramsey Hairpin:
Geoff Cannell's
Peter Kneale's


Updated April 19th 2010.

A schematic map with the names of the list.
The ground map is from the official program for MGP 2004.
Some are not at the map because of lack of space.
These are:
Railway Inn between 2nd and 3rd milestone
Strang Road between 2nd and 3rd
Union Mills Garage between 2nd and 3rd
Union Mills Church between 2nd and 3rd
Glen Darragh Road between 4th and 5th
Crosby Church Hall between 4th and 5th
Glen Helen Pub and Hotel between 9th and 10th
Ballakillingan Farm between 22nd and 23rd
The Caravan between 22nd and 23rd
Albert Road between 23rd and 24th
Albert Terrace between 23rd and 24th
Queens Pier Road between 23rd and 24th
Bus Station between 23rd and 24th
Centenary Bends (still only a proposal) between 25th and 26th
Snaefell Mountain Railway crossing between 30th and 31st
Glen Dhoo Campsite between 36th and 37th
Victoria Road Junction between 37th and Start and Finish Line

Map updated March 8th 2010.
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